What if the polls get it right? Far-right holds onto poll lead ahead of snap French election

Don't blink or you'll have missed the shortest electoral campaign of Francis Fifth Republic. Well, 19 days of canvassing have moved the needle since Emmanuel Macron's surprise dissolution of parliament on the night of European elections. Not according to the polls. They suggested the president may regret getting what he wished for with his decision to clear the air and go to the polls. The far right's never been closer to power since the Nazi regime of Vichy. Reminder that an even shorter Sprint starts Sunday night at 8:00 PM when the polls close on the first round. France's legislative elections are actually 577 individual races that feature a runoff the following week. What alliances? What chances of an outright majority for Mahinga Pen's National Rally? What message do citizens of the European Union's second largest economy really want to send for a national contest with worldwide consequences? Today in the France 24 debate, we're asking, what if the polls have got it right this time? And with us running for reelection from President Macron's Renaissance Party. Member of Parliament Eddie Norkawa, whose French constituency includes the Caribbean and Latin America. Thanks for being with us. Thank you for inviting me with us as well. He's mayor of the Paris suburb of Mizzolafi. Jack Mia running for parliament, not as a member of the National Rally, but under the alliance that the National Rally has. Let's say I'm standing on my own profile and fortunately they did not oppose me. Anyone you're with Alex Co TS part of I think I think things are moving on, you know, because in the street people say and we are very glad to to have you back. OK we'll talk about that in a moment as well. Social. She's not running Socialist deputy mayor of Paris municipal councillor Olivia Podski. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. He's covering the penultimate night of campaigning from Paris's plus de la Republique France 24's Clovis Kazeli is with us. We'll cross to you in a moment. Clovis, your reactions on the hashtag F2 for debate. First off, the evening of June 9th seems like it was a long, long time ago. I decided to give back to you the choice for the future of our parliament with a vote. This is a time for much needed clarification. Clarification. I think it things got way clearer and now we're really in the campaign time. My constituents voted yesterday and the day before online they're voting on Saturday. So now we're just running and and hoping to get that sit back. Jacques Mian is the needle moved during the I mean, it's a very short campaign. Yes, very short, but very stimulating. You know, we are boosting and because, you know, I always said that if it was a dissolution of the Assembly, I would campaign, I would stand for a new mandate. Yeah, well, I was, I was 24, more than 20 years as an MP, you know, but the point is that everyone was surprised. There is no doubt. I, I was waiting for this, this, this solution of the National Assembly at the budget time, you see, but not so, so quickly. I think he committed suicide. I think he's he's dreaming is, is believing that he would get, you know, a majority. I mean, he will get another one being Emmanuel Macron, Olivia Polski this campaign. What's it felt like for you? Well, I think that Emmanuel Macron tried to gamble, yes, but I think he will fail. And the polls are showing that it's not working. And it's what have you been up to the last two weeks? Tell us, tell us how your last two weeks have been. Well, I've been campaigning with my my fellow socialist candidates in Paris. And I think that we, we are trying to tell people that they have a choice. This is a left choice. We are united and we are ready. We have a program and we'll change things. Clovis Cassetti, you're at Paris's Plus de la Republique. This isn't a rally organized by any specific party, but by trade unions, indeed, Francois, organized by trade unions and also by left wing media outlets. And you've also got actors, actresses and musicians who will be taking to the stage just behind me. You've already got a thousands of people here, Plez de la Republique, in the heart of the French capital. More people set to arrive, of course, as they come out of work. What are the people here asking for? They're asking the French people to really mobilize, get together and head to the polling stations to prevent the French National Rally, the French far right party, from getting into power. People here we've been talking to all tell us that the French far right is a threat to democracy. Take a listen, because I think that for a lot of people, if Bardela is the next Prime Minister. So I'm here for my rights and for the rights of other people in the way he speaks, in the way he wants to change French. He doesn't take care of other people when they're not French. And it's a problem for me here today because I'm so afraid about the situation in France. It's just crazy, like the air. And you can pass like very, very easily. I was very like surprised because of my our friends vote for this. And I think it's just because they don't know actually for food, they vote for real. Like extreme ripping politics is very like about racism, xenophobia, homophobic. And it's very crazy because they won't cancel everything about the LGBT right. It's very crazy about it. And like just the minorities, they will disappear. Well, demonstrations like this have been taking place all across France and especially here, Plaza la Republique in Paris. Some of the protesters we spoke to to say the situation is urgent and dangerous for France if the French far right comes into power, gets into government. Of course, here people are left wing supporters. They are back the new Popular Front, this alliance made-up of left wing parties, including the Socialists, the Greens, the Communists and the radical left, the France on bad movement of Jean Luc Minochon and people here. I'm really worried by the situation because, of course, all polls are predicting a crushing victory of the National Rally. The far right party of Marine Le Pen and Jordan Badela. We'll be crossing back to you later. Clovis Casilla. Yeah, those polls are showing that the National Rally and its allies could be within shooting distance of an outright majority. Let's break it down though. Online registration for citizens abroad, is it a record high? Judging by the surge here in France on the mainland of proxy voting requests nationwide, the turn out could swing up from a record low of 45%, 45% last time to perhaps this is the wrong graphic here, but to to more, perhaps more than a 60% for for this election. The increased turn out can go both ways. They don't know Kawa because it's seen as though it won't be the same result as it was in in the European elections, but it also means that they'll be more 3 way races and that it may not at all stop that momentum of the far right. No, absolutely. But I think you have to be really cautious when interpreting the polls because we have to remind everyone that the legislative elections are two rounds and they're also unanominal. You're not voting for a list, you're only voting for a person. So I think when you when you actually look at the polls and they talk about three blocks, that doesn't mean much because you'd have to look into who are they, who are people planning on voting for? And within those three blocks, you have differences that are really relevant because what I'm really clear about is that once the election is passed, these blocks will no longer be the same. Because when you look at, for instance, the left, you have a very, a very strange alliance of parties that were fighting each other very vehemently only a few weeks ago and that now say that they agree on, you know, blocking the far right. But when you look at the program, they still disagree on many things, such As, for instance, environmental issues, Europe, political, foreign affairs issues. And when you look at the right, you see that there's also part of the Republicans that have gone with the far right, which also don't have a clear stand. So you see that it's very moving. And I think what we have to look into is a very more granular results. Who are French people planning on voting for in the different constituencies and how will France look afterwards? Because there will be real alliances, I'm sure of that. It's interesting to go to Yaposki because there's a second of these lead candidates debates taking part place. First time around it was a representative of the far left France Unbowed party. For the second one, it's a socialist to the head leader of the Socialist Party. Who's going to be representing. Do you agree that actually this is just an alliance of convenience and that they don't this will fall apart after July 8th and the it's the second time. It's not the first time. The legislative before we were united too. And I think that's what the the the sorry the left people ask for us is to be united is to be strong and have proposals and we have a program that is very clear about our priorities. So but then then it really blown apart. This is this is this is a lift. We all have our differences. And that's what interesting know what and the rights to you should you should actually, you said at the outset, Jack Meow that you're not a member of the National Rally that you're that you're all man. Does that mean that you're going to does that mean that if elected, you would you would sit with Le Repubica or would you sit with the far right? Would you? This is something which is very important. I will. Is it the same problem on your side of the aisle? Yes, but I will see it as a Republican and that of course I will sit near the the alliance that Scotty has undescribed. All I know is that there will be a rush of him sitting next the former leader of the people. Are you comfortable sitting next to that? No, but don't worry, there will be a rush of thing of the majority and the political scene in France after this election. We won't find any things that we had before. There will be a new reshuffling on the left, on the left as well as on the right. And I will I I believe that the choice of COT will be the the future. You know, the question could be put to you as well. I don't know, Kawa, because Emmanuel Macron's party is made-up of people whose DNA comes from the center right, others who come from the Socialist Party. Do you think there could be this grand redistribution of the cards on July the 8th and that you yourself, you might be reelected, but they decide to sit in a different voting bloc than the one you're running for? Like, if I, if I answer to this question as an elector, just as a citizen, I would tell you that this is perhaps the most complicated and unreadable election in France ever because of these three blocks that don't mean much today. Emmanuel's Michael's idea was to go to go further away from the left and the right, traditional division that we had in France. And he made a political proposal that was really centered also on his person, on his personality with no, with a very weak structural party behind the the traditional parties, left and right are a a weekend. And you have these two blocks. And the problem with those blocks you're saying never built, never took the time to build a party. I mean, no, I think he tried to build a party. And to a certain extent, there is a movement that I mean, a lot of people from civil society, it entered into politics because they believed in that they didn't want to be either with one, you know, with one etiquette or another. They wanted to be for common good. And they truly believed in this possibility of going away from these two blocks. And today everything, all, all the blocks, the left block and the right block are trying to go back to that. But the, the real problem, and that's why I'm saying you have to look into for every single election, who do you have what, who's the candidate that is representing? Is that the left block today is dominated, and I'm sorry to say it, by Jean Luc Melange's LFS, which is not what I believe the majority of the left people want to vote for. And then the right block is now completely also dominated by far right ideas, which I believe the the traditional Republican right in France does not agree to those ideas. So that's why I'm thinking that there's going to be a real reshuffling. And that's why my message to voters that are wondering what's happening and what will happen next is vote for responsible candidates that you are in a weakness. That's all. No, no, I'm not. Of course, I'm not even talking about myself. You see, you're always no, no, let me say. And that's why people is rejected. And but that's not he's not he's not standing and he's not. This is not the question. This is not the question. You have been it is you have been going with him and you will have to be responsible for the state of France of today. Full stop. Look, the people, the election, the French don't want of you anymore. Look, I think that the the aggressivity of both blocks. The fact that politics have turned into a very polarized debate is what make people go away from traditional parties. And I think that's what has weakened. Are we, are we, are we about to return to the blocks we had before 2017? Or is France about to embark on a very different experiment with a Jordan Bardela, a far right Prime Minister? It's going to be different. But I'm sure that Macronism without Macron is nothing. It's it has no existence. This is true. So when Macron won't be elected anymore and then they will disappear. And so if we have to build something else after that. So, I mean, the future is on the, I believe that the future is on the left side. Some of the polls say though, well, we're not that far that far. And I think that the polls have always these years underestimate the left. Francois, I am pretty sure that we will go back a new dilemma or new challenge between the the right and the left. I'm pretty sure that the left will come back. And we said at the outset of this conversation, you're a Republican. This isn't the right versus the left anymore. This is the far. No, no, no, no. I'm pretty sure that it will come back because there is something, as it has been said, macro finish is out of the game, but it will come. And then we are in a new, let's say, schedule for the right with Barbela. This is true with of course, people like me standing Republican, but as an ally and standing firmly on our position. So you're happy with Jordan Bardela becoming Prime Minister? Wait and see. There is no, I am done gambling about that. You know, he would have faced difficulties because the situation is awful. But I'm pretty sure that we will come back one day right and left, and no more macro. And what about the extremes? Pardon. No, don't speak of extreme. Again, this is gambling. This is absolutely, you know, bluff. I'm sorry. I mean, but now I'm pretty sure, you know, when you said at the beginning, when you mentioned that the left, the right was coming back the first time after, you know, what happened during the war, I mean, don't be ridiculous. Don't be ridiculous. You know, Bardella, we know those people. They come from the APR, which I belong to. And our, you know, our executive went to Macron Marichal. And this is the point. I have many friends who have been campaigning with me in the national Assembleman, you see. So you have to face the reality of men. Let's take a look. Let's take a look here because France has had, just to remind our viewers, power sharing before what we call in this country, cohabitation, cohabitation. And Francis. President Emmanuel Macron says whatever the outcome is after two rounds of voting, first round coming up Sunday, he will remain president. In those other cohabitation examples, you had a president from 1 camp, a government from the rival camp. In those cases, the executive branch had its say on foreign and defense matters. This time, Marine Le Pen says she won't concede military matters to the commander in chief. Lies. Herbert has more. There's an air of confidence in Marine Le Pen with snapped parliamentary polls around the corner. In an interview with a regional paper, she said her far right party is likely to secure an absolute majority. She's predicting the polls replace President Macron in an uncomfortable situation and he'll only end up serving as an honorific commander in chief, telling Le Telegram it's the Prime Minister that controls the purse strings. You know, the constitution. I looked at Article 15. The head of state is the commander in chief. The Prime Minister has a budgetary veto. It means it's the Prime Minister who commits the finances and it's the Prime Minister who signs authorisations for finances when there are military operations. The National Rallies appeal over the past few years has been aided by C News, a channel that's seen as France's version of Fox News. In the United States, it's frequently been reprimanded and fined by the country's TV watchdog for spreading conspiracy theories. And now one of its former commentators is running on a National Rally ticket. If you don't like the phrase great replacement, there are others. What counts is not the name, but the facts. I can tell you about the flood of migration that's radically changing the nature of our people in terms of culture, language. I recently saw the deputy mayor of Paris suggested printing leaflets in Arabic. If that's not a marker of the evolution of France, I don't know what is. Recent polls show the far right will come out on top in the upcoming vote. However, ahead of its outcome, a new report from the country's Human Rights Commission shows all forms of racism and intolerance were on the rise in France last year. There was a poll done that and it was 1212 thousand people surveyed. This was done for Le Monde and French public broadcasting. They asked people who put a who voted for the National Rally for Mahinda Penn's party on June 9th in the European elections, why they voted for them and he number one reason given was they agreed with their with their values and their ideas. Second, to support the 28 year old lead candidate Jordan Bardela and 3rd to cast a protest of vote. Let's get reactions to that and and in our car. While first of all, there is this momentum for for the national rally for the far right. And you, you see also some of the, the, the issues that have been coming up the most, particularly things like fear of, of immigration. Is it a momentum that you can't stop anymore? But what I see when I look at these numbers is that there is some adherence to their, to their values and their project. When you look at their project and their values, you see that it's constantly changing and that the party, the, the national national adapts to the wing. Like, for instance, for a long time they were for Brexit. When they understood that Brexit was not perhaps a good idea for Britain, they suddenly said, well, we've never said that for a long time. Also, they opposed to binational. The vice president of the country of the party said, I don't want binationals with the countries that are outside of Europe. And then he went backwards, dual citizenship exactly. And immediately went backwards. But then Jordan Valdila himself said, well, not in strategic positions. I find this extremely offensive. I am a binational and I am a French politician and I don't understand why I wouldn't be able to be in positions that are quote UN quote sensitive. So I think their ideas are not perceived as as what they are because they keep hiding themselves. And for being with them for the past two years in the Assembly Nationale, I can tell you. I can tell you that they went up for being quiet, but because every time they actually expressed their position, you saw the xenophobia and the racism coming up. And this is what we actually need to put into the debate. Why has there been this rise in the far right? I, I think that people won't change. They want a better life. They want hope and they want to have a better that's in the polls too. They want a better buying power and security than they have now. So they want change. And this is expression of a a change willing. And I think that we can offer we the left, a path that is different, the far right, the far right, it it has been said, is like the Nophobia is the anti-Semitism too. And it's the homo, the homophobia too. And they reject all the minorities. When you see all of other Europe where the when the far right passed, the minorities are all the rights of the minorities are all blown up. So I think we should fight, we should mobilize this election because it's very important, but we have to have a positive message for a better life and we want to offer the hope. Check me out The the the the far right which says it wants to end birthright citizenship for those born on French soil, something that the Vichy government did not go on pure rubbish with the accusation. In many cases in France today in special services you don't have B nationals 1st and never forget that in many other countries in United States for instance, B nationals or those who are not born in America will not be able to campaign in few states. That's the point. Secondly, when you speak when you speak of you know this all full Assemblyman national that will expel people or things like that. No, the point is that we had since 1867 the what you saw the soils you know when you're born what it is it was to make soldiers. That's Nippon in the sun who impose the those who were born in France, they will be engaged as soldier to make war. This is the point. And when we kept double soil, you know, nationality with the Algerian government, you know what the Algerian government's told us, You are making French against the will of those people. Let me, let me turn now to Clovis Kazelius at that rally at Plaza IPP on this campaign going beyond what's in that square in Paris. What would you have seen during these 19 days? What's been the number one issue? Has it been this issue of identity and immigration? Has it been spending power? What's been coming up the most? I think it clearly is the purchasing power of the French people. The the feeling not here in Paris, because bear in mind, in Paris only 8% of the people voted for the national rally in the electoral in the last European elections, as opposed to over 30% in the rest of France. Bit over over the French territory, a lot of people are suffering, are struggling to pay their bills, are struggling to give a bright future to their children. And when you have a situation where you feel that your children aren't going to have the same chances and the same life that you had, then it becomes a real problem. And Francois, you know, I followed the National Rally and Jordan Bardela a lot over the last few days. And it's very interesting to see that strategy. They're not campaigning across the country. They know they're in a strong position. They are only Charlene Baladela is only giving interviews to journalists, going on various TV channels and of course broadcasting his message. But he's not taking any risk in this campaign, not holding any public meeting because he knows there's too much at stake here. He doesn't want to have a counter demo or he's trying to minimise risks, I have to say. And for the past ten years or so I've been following Marine Le Pen, the from National National Front and then became the National Rally. And we've clearly seen a change of strategy. She's been trying to change her image, change the party's image, soften her message on many levels and create this union of the right wing. And she's succeeded now with if it's your team, it's sweet victory for Marine Le Pen, regardless of the results. Of course she wants to get in government with Jordan Bardena. Of course she's dreaming of becoming the next French President in 2027. This she succeeded with Elixir T joining her. She succeeded in creating this big alliance, this big right wing block. But let's be honest, this right wing, this right wing block is towards the far right and she's the boss really she's, she's the one who is the the one calling the shots, even though Jordan Bardella is the lead candidate for the party, the one who would become Prime Minister should they reach that magic number of 289 seats in the next parliament. Bardila, who's called in the Financial Times for a Margaret Thatcher style rebate on France's contribution to the European Union budget, coinciding with an EU summit that's taking place as we speak there. It's perhaps a weakened French President who faces the prospect of sharing power with the far right, or else a hung parliament. Earlier this week, in a podcast interview, Emmanuel Macron warned of civil war if the extremes win, as he put it, if we take your reasoning to its logical conclusion, either the country explodes or a civil war breaks out. And that's where I disagree with both extremes and those who follow them. It's also what I'd like to alert people to. A lot of our compatriots go to the extremes because they often have anger or something that isn't being addressed. And there are a lot of people who vote for the extreme right because there's insecurity in their daily lives, because there's an immigration that they consider is not being dealt with. And they say to themselves, we haven't tried these parties out yet. And this party has been here for seven years, so we're going to try something else. And my response to those people I've taken in your message, I think we need to go much faster and much harder. Olivia Polsky, has McCall been successful in painting your block as extreme? Is there a glass ceiling that you can't go above because of that? Of course not. I mean, you know that we have a very solid program. We are we have some socialists and some class public and some green. We are all able to rule the government government and he he wants to say there are just the two extremes and us and me and but it's false. We are able we are now do you do you endorse the use of that word civil war. I think what what is happening now is that the far left is taking over control of this new noobs. You said it before, this has existed and we saw what happened in the National Assembly for two years. It was dominated by the but my question is the word civil war. I'm getting to that. So and then you see what happens with the far right and it to the extent it was always a form of circus and the politics was really misused and disruptive. I think the perception that French people can have is that politicians are not doing what they should be doing. And it is because of this opposition that they turn then to the far right. But civil civil war, I think it's it's extreme. Obviously it's not it's not to be taken on a on a, on a primary on a sense. But what, what you have to look into is who is going to be elected in the left bloc? Who is going to be elected for the Republicans? And how are we going to manage to oppose the extreme ideas of the Hassam Lamont national who is trying to do a sort of like make over? But when you look at every single candidate that they're placing in different constituency, you see that they either have Avicii pass, either have a anti COVID, anti vax also behavior. You have to look at the people that are being placed. No, it's true. Look at it. There's there's it's very telling. I think that you speak a lot. I would like to speak again. You like me out. OK. First of all, President, Speaking of civil war, is this is totally irresponsible. Is you know, he's playing, he's playing with fire, he's gambling with fire. This is not acceptable. I think he's fully wrong. Secondly, when we hear that the only, you know, argument in politics is now to say extreme on the extreme on that this is a kind of weakness. Those who accuse the other one of extremity, I think that one day they are extreme, foolish. That's all. Well, the I, I just want to say one thing. I think that Macron is responsible for the situation. He's the only one. He was the president. I, I, well, he has a big responsibility. He made this choice of the, the, the legislative. Now I'm, I'm sorry, but it's too easy. He's a what we call a Pompeii Roman and that's all he's he's he's a a fireman and an arsonist at the same time. That's it. I think this is this is very telling when you look at the fact that this is the the legislature where you had the more motion sincere so temptatives to actually take over the government and to have the dissolution. All of your parties voted for the solution of the Assembly and they were not. What about the second part of that clip? We have said he is responsible for the state of no, who is responsible for the state? You are responsible for that. Look at the aggressivity that you have No, don't try no one at a time, one at a time, one at a time. No, I'm I'm being completely honest and I'm looking at the way you express yourself and and it reminds me of the National Assembly and at the oppositions that were not constructive every time they were constructive. We were able we were able is not the government. If you stop I can maybe I can make an idea. Sorry, but with the retreats reform like an example, the, the reform, the pension reform, the, the trade unions tried something. You always refused anything. No that, but well, even the same detail you tried something, the deadlock situation, I think, I think today what is happening in this campaign is that everyone is saying you're responsible for the rise of the extreme right and this is what parties keep doing. It's your responsibility, it's your responsibility. I think we have to fight those ideas because they're but you heard the second part of him and Michael's clip. He says first talked about civil war and then in the second part of the clip, he talks about how well we have to be tougher on crime and immigration. What he's saying is we have to address people's. So is he sending God whistle messages to those that you're. I gave you an advice for your president. Shush. He must be quiet. You should not speak. You should not speak anymore. Oh, sorry. I thought you were saying that was very rude. Yeah, but I say more Macron speaks more, it creates, you know, I think think wrong to to be just one quote. I think French people don't want to see this kind of politics. They deserve better. They deserve responsible leaders. They deserve better. They deserve better than than this kind of debate. They deserve to talk about topics. They deserve to see what they're going to be. Look right. The stakes, the stakes in any case, are high. They are high. And I think the the the debate should be higher. The debate should be about ideas. When you see a blog that has different ideas on everything and that is regrouping just to oppose another party. When you see like the what the government that now goes with the Assemblyman SNL, this to me was a real shock. And this I don't think is what film people want to see. Olivia Porsky, let's talk. Let's talk for a moment. Let's talk for a moment about the left which big press conference last Friday announcing that how they would finance at 12% hike in the minimum wage and others are saying no, this is this is unrealistic. What what what does this left have in common? At first we have to analyse why we are here. We are here because the people have difficulties to pay their bills. The the journalist talked about it, We are in that situation because some people cannot have a housing, a decent housing and many people are in a situation in a poor situation. And that's why today they have the right sort of rage. So we have to find and propose things that at at ease at the the right level. And so we are having some proposals that is on the health issue are in the health issues, the education issues, the housing issues. At first we're have priorities, but to respond to the the the the problem of the French people we we can take about we can talk about Macron, the right, the far right. The problem is to answer the French people problems and you have so different views within you agree that and I'm sure we have a program and we do agree we have do we and and these two is how different mentioned but we do not go further competition. It doesn't work the way that the the chief of the Army, the President and the Prime Minister Article 20. I experience that. I talk with the Balladua and in fact, it doesn't go that the president say I want this and the Prime Minister, they discussed on national security issues. They did speak. But will that be the case if it's not in Lebanon? In fact, they go in government. They they talk, they there is a dialogue. And I can assure you that Mitterrand wanted that Belladua would send troops in Kayali, you know. And the Prime Minister said no and they never and the President did not succeed. But at the end of the day they they settled the scores at the end of the day, the example you give, they settle their scores behind closed doors. No, but the speak what will happen this time? Will this time we do the same thing? Because in fact you cannot in such a arguments, in such a situation, the President cannot decide of everything because the government is also responsible for defence. If there's one possibility which is the far right wins, there's another possibility which is a hung parliament and the president can't dissolve a second time, what happens then? Deadlock. Well, it can be and gun gun vulnerable for one year. Then after he can dissolute too. After one year. It goes back to my previous point, none of the blocks, neither of the blocks really matter. What matters is the people and how responsible or not they are. And that's my message for my people voting is that who are you voting for and are they able to make compromises? And we did for two years. It was tough at the National Assembly, but we did. We voted different things, different laws that were proposed by different groups, not by the Assemblyman National never, but by other groups that were responsible. And so this is the point. And you know, and you know how we anticipated it. We didn't didn't put any candidates in the constituencies where we were sure that if there had been 22 Republicans, the the far right would have passed. And I think and I think that is a responsible behaviour. It is true. It is true. Government have many examples. I have many examples. Dear, dear Carol, dear Carol to my name is not Carol Succeed first you asked me the Sharon and you mistake my name. Of course, Russell and the and the Republican win this election and then we will have I don't government, which will be disagreement, unfortunately. I think it's incredible. It's about French people and French problems. We're just talking about ourselves. Come on, the, the, this is a problem. I mean, we have to to deal with the, the what they're answer asking for. And that's precisely why I think we have to. So what are you going to propose? So, So what? So what we have done. And look, it's very difficult to make things pass when you have an opposition that is by principle opposed to whatever did they manage to break his promise on the second night of the legislative elections in 2022 where he said he would he would be more open, he would govern more. And then he ruled a lot by decree because this is a joke. The, the decrees and the 49 three, the, the the the article of the constitution that allows to pass bills were mainly used for budgets where you had before even the discussion started, a number that was the most, the biggest number in the entire Fifth Republic of amendments that were that were presented. And the oppositions that said, we don't even want to look at what you propose in terms of budget. We are going to vote. Against. So I think now everyone has to take their responsibility. We're in a new configuration point. Is that you? You. But the Fifth Republic. Don't stop. Interrupt me. You have no success to send a new majority in the National Assembly. I'm just saying this is your fault. I would be very happy. I would be. We have heard you. Can you just listen? One time, mercy. Thank you. You know what? I know you just interrupted me. And no, no, no, no, no. You have been talking 24. Please listen. One mercy. I think that in fact, the situation, you are responsible for it. And what I hope is that we will have a full majority here on the right so that we can govern. Let me go around the room once because we're running short on time between the two rounds of the presidential election. If there are candidates from the left, will you call to vote for them? Absolutely. If they're Republicans in their essence, if they're not extremist, of course I would. And and it would be the same for so if it's from France, I'm bowed for the right. For the Republicans right that haven't made any agreement with the Rasam Lemonationale and dirty their name, check me out for three-way races. Pardon. If there are three-way races, what will you call for? Wait and see. I never decide on hypothesis. Olivia Porsky. I've I've have 25 years of militantism against anti-Semitism, racism, of course against the far right. So you cannot accuse. You cannot accuse. The right will be against the far right everywhere. That's all. That's our enemies and that's quite clear. And there are enemies. This is very great. One more day, One more day of campaigning to go. My opponent. One more day of campaigning to go before the first round of the legislative elections. There will be a run off seven days after that. Jack Mia, I want to thank you. I want to thank you as well, Olivia Polski, Elenor Carois, thank you for being with us here in the France 24 debate. Let's understand the session for two.