Ex-Fujitsu engineer denies hiding problems with Horizon during trial

Do you remember taking the oath? Because that was the moment after which you were bound to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Yes, I remember that. Was it just like the day job? Just like supporting another ticket? No, it wasn't. It was a a very different experience from what I was normally doing. Because you said earlier this week that you approached giving evidence in the same way, and that's why you just confined yourself to the narrow answers to the narrow questions that you were asked. Do you remember saying that? I remember saying that, yes. But actually you acknowledge it was very different to the day job, wasn't it? It would have felt sorry, Yes, it would. I'm so sorry. It would have felt very different. It would have felt probably, I would imagine, quite extraordinary to be there in the witness box with Mrs. Misery in the dock, knowing that her fate would turn on what you said. Did it feel extraordinary? It certainly felt different from normal, yes. Did you know that the trial was also a test for Horizon? I'm not sure whether I did or not. By then Horizon was an out of control monster. Hundreds of innocent people had already had their lives ruined to protect it. But you don't accept that, do you? I was not aware of that at the time. Now. You told us yesterday, as far as I was aware, all the bugs had been fixed. That was my true belief at the time and still is. And you confirmed that you rejected the findings of the Horizon issues judgment. Yes, I, I, I still stand by that. Isn't the truth that you knew that Horizon was a monster and that it was causing harm? No, that was not how I felt. You hid it, didn't you? No, I did not. You answered a lot of questions yesterday about the misery trial, which were effectively aimed at understanding why you didn't tell the jury about the monster. And you answered most of them with variations of I realize that now. I should have done that. I realize that now. You had to say that, didn't you? That's the truth. That's why I said it. In fact, you knew what you were doing. You threw mud in the jury's eyes, didn't you? I did not.