The far right is calling for civil war after the FBI raid on Trump's home. Experts say that fight wouldn't look like the last one.

the far right is calling for civil war after the fbi raid on trump's home. experts say that fight wouldn't look like the last one.

Supporters of former President Donald Trump gather near his residence at Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, on August 9, 2022. Giorgio Viera/Getty Images

  • Some on the far right have been calling for civil war since an FBI raid on Trump’s Florida home.
  • Some experts say the warning signs for civil war have been emerging in the US in recent years.
  • But they also say that such a conflict would look very different from the Civil War of the 1860s.

the far right is calling for civil war after the fbi raid on trump's home. experts say that fight wouldn't look like the last one.

In the wake of an FBI search of former President Donald Trump’s Florida home, some far-right figures have been spreading violent rhetoric online — including calls for war.

The Republican party has long portrayed itself as the defender of “law and order,” but the aftermath of the raid has seen GOP lawmakers like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene call for defunding the FBI.

Greene has also made references to “civil war” on social media as her Republican colleagues compare the FBI to the Gestapo and depict the raid as the type of thing that only happens in “third world” countries.

Meanwhile, pro-Trump internet channels have seen a spike in talk of civil war since the raid.

The FBI raid of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home came in a historically divisive period for the US, one in which millions of voters continue to believe the false notion that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from Trump.

Such erroneous claims were at the heart of what catalyzed the deadly January 6 riot at the US Capitol last year, and historians and experts on democracy warn that these lies continue to foster the potential for further violence. They also say that if the US did see civil war, it wouldn’t look like the first one.

Fiona Hill, who served as the leading Russia expert on the National Security Council during the Trump administration, said in a conversation with Insider last month that the distrust in the electoral process and government institutions fomented by Trump and his GOP allies has created a “recipe for communal violence.” Hill warned the US could ultimately “end up in a civil conflict.”

The country is at a point in which “trust in the different communities and authorities” has eroded “to such an extent that people just start fighting with each other,” Hill said.

But she also underscored that a civil conflict in the present day would be unlikely to look like the American Civil War, an extraordinarily bloody fight between the Union and Confederacy that left an estimated 618,000 to 750,000 Americans dead.

“I don’t think we’d end up in the kind of conflict that we had between the states — the Union and the Confederacy — back in the day,” Hill said. “But people’s sense of the civil and civic ways of resolving disputes are out the window.”

Less than a week after the raid on Trump’s home, an armed man attempted to break into the FBI field office in Cincinnati. Authorities have not announced a motive but are reportedly investigating whether the man — who was ultimately killed by police — had ties to far right extremism.

The suspected gunman, Ricky Shiffer, appears to have posted calls for war and violence against the FBI on Trump’s social media network Truth Social.

“If you don’t hear from me, it is true I tried attacking the F.B.I.,” one post read. The account with Shiffer’s name repeatedly parroted Trump’s election lies, per CNN, and multiple reports also suggest that the suspect may have been at the Capitol on January 6.

‘All of the warning signs for civil war have emerged’

the far right is calling for civil war after the fbi raid on trump's home. experts say that fight wouldn't look like the last one.

Pro-Trump protesters gather in front of the U.S. Capitol Building on January 6, 2021 in Washington, DC. Jon Cherry/Getty Images

Barbara F. Walter, a political science professor at the University of California at San Diego who specializes in political violence, warned in an April op-ed for the New Republic that over the past six years “all of the warning signs for civil war have emerged in the United States, and they have emerged at a surprisingly fast rate.”

Walter, who has done extensive research on civil wars, expanded on this in an interview with The Washington Post last month. Like other scholars looking at these issues, Walter said the US isn’t heading toward a conflict akin to the fight between the North and South.

“When people think about civil war, they think about the first civil war. And in their mind, that’s what a second one would look like. And, of course, that’s not the case at all,” Walter told the Post. “What we’re heading toward is an insurgency, which is a form of a civil war. That is the 21st-century version of a civil war, especially in countries with powerful governments and powerful militaries, which is what the United States is.”

Walter went on to say that an insurgency is “more decentralized” and tends to be a fight between multiple groups. “They use unconventional tactics. They target infrastructure. They target civilians. They use domestic terror and guerrilla warfare. Hit-and-run raids and bombs,” she said.

Right-wing extremists have been known to look to “The Turner Diaries,” a novel that’s been referred to as the bible of the far right, for a blueprint on how to take down a powerful government like the US, Walter said. The book, which is revered by white nationalist groups, tells the fictional tale of a civil war against the US government.

“One of the things it says is, Do not engage the U.S. military. You know, avoid it at all costs. Go directly to targets around the country that are difficult to defend and disperse yourselves so it’s hard for the government to identify you and infiltrate you and eliminate you entirely,” Walter told the Post.

Research shows that terrorists like the Oklahoma City bomber have been inspired by “The Turner Diaries.”

During a recent meeting at the White House, a group of historians warned President Joe Biden that the US is facing threats not unlike those the country saw in the pre-Civil War period, The Washington Post reported on Wednesday.

Historian Michael Beschloss, who has made the case that US democracy is in existential danger, was reportedly among the academics who spoke to Biden. Though he’s sounding the alarm about the threats America’s democracy is facing at present, Beschloss also says that a civil conflict in the US would be unlikely to resemble the devastating war of the 1860s.

Beschloss said in a social media post on Thursday that “if any kind of civil war faces Americans (may God forbid), it is unlikely to be two armies fighting over one paramount issue (slavery), as in 1861-1865, but sporadic, mounting bursts of violence against our federal government as it tries to enforce rule of law.”

Read the original article on Business Insider

News Related

OTHER NEWS

Nancy Pelosi Spills The Beans On How Democrats Can Keep Control Over House

The party of a new president historically doesn’t fare well during the midterm elections, and President Joe Biden’s low approval rating isn’t helping Democrats. But House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) ... Read more »

‘We found a planet that shows us what the Earth will be like in five billion years’

Astrophysicist Lisa Kaltenegger. Lisa Kaltenegger is an Austrian astrophysicist who wants to be the first person to find life on a planet beyond our solar system. In 1995, when Michel ... Read more »

Video of 2-Month-Old Puppy Who Was Returned to Oregon Shelter Has Us Shaking Our Heads

Don’t people understand that puppies require patience? TikTok user @therainabaina, a volunteer at the Heartland Humane Society, shared one of the saddest videos we’ve seen in a while. So we’re ... Read more »

Air India Promises A Gourmet Experience With New Domestic Menu

Air India Promises A Gourmet Experience With New Domestic Menu Air India IATA/ICAO Code: AI/AIC Airline Type: Full Service Carrier Hub(s): Delhi Indira Gandhi International Airport Year Founded: 1946 Alliance: ... Read more »

Rams left reeling as regular-season slide against 49ers continues in loss

SANTA CLARA, Calif. —  From Super Bowl champions to super average. Mediocre. And trending perhaps toward … super bad? That’s where the Rams find themselves after a 24-9 loss to the ... Read more »

Lawyer claims LAPD officer was targeted for being a potential whistleblower

The attorney representing Los Angeles police officer Houston Tipping’s mother claims that the 32-year-old was targeted by other officers for being a potential whistleblower. Even though a coroner’s report ruled ... Read more »

In Ian's wake, Florida residents brave a slow wait for power

In Ian's wake, Florida residents brave a slow wait for power Nearly a week after Hurricane Ian smashed into Florida and left carved a path of destruction that reached into ... Read more »

Mysterious recruiter behind Martha’s Vineyard migrant flights reportedly identified

Mysterious recruiter behind Martha’s Vineyard migrant flights reportedly identified ASSOCIATED PRESS SAN ANTONIO — The mysterious woman who allegedly lured dozens of migrants on Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ flights to Martha’s ... Read more »

Column: Sean McVay’s once-formidable offense has transformed into a predictable mess

SANTA CLARA, Calif. —  The second-quarter play call was about as telling as any statistic, a quarterback keeper on second and three. Matthew Stafford moves about as swiftly as Bay Area ... Read more »

Talanoa Hufanga provides nightmare fuel for Rams with game-changing pick-six

SANTA CLARA, Calif. —  Yet another Hollywood remake — the San Francisco 49ers won again — but this time it was a different leading man who took down the Rams. Second-year ... Read more »

Darvin Ham and Lakers taking a more serious approach to preseason

No butterflies. No pregame photos on the court. No extra moments of reflection on the drive to the arena. Just work. “It’s game day,” Darvin Ham said before his first ... Read more »

Big Giveaways for Big Tex's Birthday at the State Fair of Texas

Link video: http://nbclim-download.edgesuite.net/Prod/NBCU_LM_VMS_-_KXAS/302/131/KXAS_Big_Tex_History_100322__148754.mp4 NBCUniversal, Inc. Big Tex is celebrating his 70th year at Fair Park this year and the State Fair of Texas is throwing him a birthday bash. They’re ... Read more »

Ron DeSantis on the media politicizing Hurricane Ian: Floridians are 'really sick of the nonsense'

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis responded to comments from Vice President Kamala Harris and the politicization from the mainstream media over Hurricane Ian on “Hannity.” RON DESANTIS: I think she [Kamala ... Read more »

Texas: Woman convicted of killing 21-year-old mother-to-be and cutting baby from her womb

Prosecutors told the court that Reagan Michelle Simmons-Hancock was beaten in the head at least five times with such force that the blows compressed her skull. Read more »

Freight train kills pedestrian south of downtown L.A., officials say

A pedestrian was killed by a freight train south of downtown Los Angeles on Monday night. The crash was reported at 7:46 p.m. in the 2100 block of South Santa ... Read more »

Traoré says «Russia is a state like any other» amid speculation about Moscow’s role

Captain Ibrahim Traoré, leader of Friday’s coup d’état in Burkina Faso, said Monday that “Russia is a state like any other” in the face of speculation that Moscow was mainly ... Read more »

European Markets Head for Higher Open as Global Markets Rally

This is CNBC’s live blog covering European markets. European stocks are heading for a higher open on Tuesday, building on gains seen in yesterday’s trading session. The U.K.’s FTSE index ... Read more »

Texas Rangers Lose to New York Yankees, 3-1

While Aaron Judge is down to three more games to try to get his 62nd home run for the New York Yankees, Luis Severino was nearly perfect in a promising ... Read more »

Herschel Walker's Son Lashes Out at Dad After News Report the Senate GOP Nominee Paid for an Abortion in 2009

The Georgia Republican vehemently denied a report by The Daily Beast saying he conceived a child with a woman he was dating and paid for her to get an abortion. NBC News has not yet verified the woman’s allegations or independently reviewed the documents Read more »

The Coziest Luxury Hotels on the East Coast For Viewing Fall Foliage

To inspire you to get away this season, discover 5 of the coziest luxury hotels on the East Coast that are idyllic for viewing Fall foliage. Plus, learn about the ... Read more »

'We're not done': Confident Philadelphia Phillies win, secure first postseason berth in 11 years

'We're not done': Confident Philadelphia Phillies win, secure first postseason berth in 11 years HOUSTON — Aaron Nola took a perfect game into the seventh inning and Kyle Schwarber homered ... Read more »

‘Too Good': Youth Football Team With Perfect Record Kicked Out of Playoffs

Link video: http://nbclim-download.edgesuite.net/Prod/NBCU_LM_VMS_-_KXAS/38/839/Youth_Football_Controversy_10P__818603.mp4 NBCUniversal, Inc. A football team of 7-year-olds and 8-year-olds with a perfect record was kicked out of the playoffs for being “too good,” league officials say. The ... Read more »

The Onion and the Supreme Court. Not a parody

The Onion and the Supreme Court. Not a parody The satirical site The Onion has some serious things to say in defense of parody FILE – The U.S. Supreme Court ... Read more »

NFL News: Steelers move on from Mitch Trubisky to a QB with a worse rating

NFL News: Steelers move on from Mitch Trubisky to a QB with a worse rating The Steelers haven’t found the best replacement for Ben Roethlisberger. Despite they selected Mitch Trubisky ... Read more »

Rams-49ers final score: That was even worse than the loss to the Bills

Rams-49ers final score: That was even worse than the loss to the Bills Monday Night Football’s 24-9 loss to the San Francisco 49ers brought back all the memories of how ... Read more »

Firefighter dies while battling wildfire in Nebraska Sandhills

The Nebraska National Forests and Grasslands Organization reported a major wildfire at the Bessey Ranger District near Halsey on Sunday. LINCOLN, Neb. (KOLN) – A firefighter died while actively fighting ... Read more »

Are respite care services covered by Medicare?

nurse reaching out to senior woman Sometimes numbers tell the story best. Each year, more than 53 million family caregivers provide the majority of support that makes it possible for ... Read more »

High School Basketball Players Learn Lessons Beyond the Court at the State Fair

Link video: http://nbclim-download.edgesuite.net/Prod/NBCU_LM_VMS_-_KXAS/305/558/Fair_HS_Students__550706.mp4 NBCUniversal, Inc. The head men’s Basketball coach at James Madison High School wanted his student-athletes to learn logistics, management, and entrepreneurship. He figured what better place to ... Read more »

Ben Simmons makes Brooklyn Nets debut: 'I'm grateful just to be able to step on that floor'

Ben Simmons makes Brooklyn Nets debut: 'I'm grateful just to be able to step on that floor' NEW YORK — Brooklyn Nets guard Ben Simmons made his long-awaited debut with ... Read more »

Herschel Walker denies report he reimbursed girlfriend's abortion

Herschel Walker denies report he reimbursed girlfriend's abortion The U.S. Senate candidate threatened to sue the Daily Beast. Herschel Walker, a Georgia football icon and U.S. Senate hopeful, has denied ... Read more »

School choice advocates promised students a better education. They haven't delivered.

It’s an old idea: Give families a choice in where their children attend school and students will receive a better education. Not all schools are a good fit for all kids ... Read more »

CDC drops COVID-19 traveler health notices for individual countries

CDC drops COVID-19 traveler health notices for individual countries ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON — The federal government is scrapping another of its responses to the pandemic. On Monday, the U.S. Centers ... Read more »

Ohio family uses boat to flee Fort Myers home at height of hurricane Ian

hurricane ian Hurricane Ian has displaced tens of thousands, including many who grew up in Cincinnati, but now live in Fort Myers. “Everything I own is in that SUV,” said ... Read more »

Man stands trial for rape in Australian Parliament House

Man stands trial for rape in Australian Parliament House A judge reminded potential jurors of the importance of impartiality at the rape trial of a former Australian government staffer Bruce ... Read more »

Jan. 6 Committee says John Eastman may have made bogus privilege claims and asks judge to review

By Sarah K. Burris John Eastman (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images) The House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on Congress wants a judge to do a review of ... Read more »

Details emerge about mystery woman who led migrants to Martha’s Vineyard

Perla Huerta. Soon after landing on Martha’s Vineyard last month, the Venezuelan migrants said, they knew they’d been deceived. The promises — free passage to Boston, jobs, refuge — made ... Read more »

Q&A with loaned LAFC midfielder Francisco Ginella: ‘Carlos Vela is the Mexican Luis Suarez’

The on-loan midfielder is watching what is happening with LAFC from afar while concentrating on winning the Uruguayan league with Nacional. Francisco Ginella sat down with Bolavip to discuss his ... Read more »

Biased media hit Florida before Ian

Biased media hit Florida before Ian Were Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) not a national political juggernaut, biased journalists would not be trying to blame him for a natural disaster and ... Read more »

91% of CEOs see tougher recession: KPMG

51% of CEOs are considering workforce reductions over next six months Read more »

Council approves up to $600K for Aer Lingus nonstop flights from Cleveland Hopkins International Airport to Dublin, Ireland

With nonstop flights from Hopkins International Airport to Ireland set to begin next year, Cleveland City Council has passed legislation authorizing economic development assistance to Irish air carrier Aer Lingus. ... Read more »
Breaking thailand news, thai news, thailand news Verified News Story Network